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Editor's Note:

He's baaaaaaaaaack!
Back with more power than ever!

Date:

Mon, Sep 06, 1999 at 02:29:21 (EDT)

From:

Roger E. Drek

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To:

Everyone

Subject:

***Best of SHP***
Message:
Welcome back, Mr. Shp.

Hope you enjoyed your summer hiatus.

I'm too busy working on my novel to read all your posts so I'll ask you and everyone else to submit suggestions for the ***Best of SHP***.

Batten down the hatches, the old Shp is back!

Date:

From:

Shp

Email:

To:

Everyone

Subject:

Re: ***Best of SHP***
Message:
How many folks here know what 'drek' means?
It means shit in Yiddish. Waste material. Not good for much
Unless it comes from an animal with a certain diet and can then be used
For fertilizer. Helps grow great tomaotes, etc. Everbody produces it,
but only certain folks with a certain fetish save it up and hang onto it.
Little babies play with it until they learn it's not good for them.
Your house is full of it, dedicated to it.

By the way, the old Shp is not back. We all constantly change and grow.
What you are attempting to do to me is:
1) negative figure ground: trying to keep me in a negative place
2) demonize: trying to picture me as someone really wacky and 'bad'

Those who know me will understand. Those who don't will search for the
truth if they are worth their salt. Those who are locked into a negative view
will remain locked into a negativce view until acted upon by an outside force.
(Newton's law of inertia.) No worries, no problem.

When you dig a hole for someone to fall into, you will fall into it yourself.
And your hole is full of drek.

Respectfully recognizing the divinity within you,
Shp

Date:

Mon, Sep 06, 1999 at 13:58:47 (EDT)

From:

Roger E. Drek

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To:

Everyone

Subject:

Say no more. This is the ***Best of SHP***
Message:
no text

Date:

Mon, Sep 06, 1999 at 15:09:56 (EDT)

From:

AJW

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To:

Shp

Subject:

What's yours Shp?
Message:
Hi Shp,

I must say, I did detect a note of affection for your good self in old Roger's comments up there. (Something, I must confess, I have developed for your maybe a little 'wacky', but definitely not 'bad' self.

Why Shp, I even detected that the old Antichrist himself greeted your return with a dash of affectionate wit, after you finished your little tete a tete.

And on a more serious note Shp, many of us here respect you for asking Maharaji, sincerely, about Jagdeo.

People might appear a bit rude, but that's because they think you come here as someone representing the teacher and cult that we're all recovering from. Something like someone marching into a bar in Warsaw, telling everyone how great Stalinism was, and how really, they should go back to communism from a dictator in Moscow, just like in the good old days. However shp, as I'm personally aware you sent the dictator an email, asking about the missing 30,000,000 Cossaks or whatever, I will vouch for your good self and buy you a drink here.

If, however, you start a fight, by for example, making fun of the name of my first online Publisher, the Honorable Roger Drek, I'll look the other way until the ambulance arrives.

And I'd stay away from those two pissed Cossacks in the corner. They carry weapons and they've got about 29,999,998 old family scores to settle.

Things move on in life, often in a way we don't expect. Stick around for a while Sandy, who knows, we might see your journey up here soon.


Anth the Optimist.

Date:

Mon, Sep 06, 1999 at 15:44:08 (EDT)

From:

Shp

Email:

To:

AJW

Subject:

Re: What's yours Shp?
Message:
Anth,

I hold all sentient beings in great regard and love.
That includes Roger.

Over and out,
Sandy the Triple Aries who believes that the stars incline but do not compel.

PS Thanks for the drink. Tasted a little like nectar. First cyberdrink I ever had. Nice energy.
Next round is on me and for the whole lot of you, and be sure to most generously top off the glasses of the folks who hate me the most.

Some nice emails sent to Barney from Shp

-----Original Message-----
From: Shp
To: me@ex-premie.org
Date: Saturday, June 05, 1999 7:21 PM
Subject: Are you out or just hiding?

Why don't you post my last e-mail to you? Puts it all on the table.

Are you out or avoiding me? Power corrupts, eh, WEBMASTER?

Now you are holding the ring of power. Let's see what you do with it.

So far, you are pretty lame. That banning of GI aka Shp was not righteous if I say so myself .

Sincerely,
Shp, aka
Veteran of Holy War
Rico Suave
GI
Bible Thuimper
Gail's Angel
Prize Patrol
Canned Yak Dept.
Wonderfulman
Duckman
maybe more...
see, I can do it too and quite convincingly. Only Mick and Bill had a clue.
Two way street. Now do you want to allow freedom of speech or be a little Napoleon around here?

-----Original Message-----
From: Shp shp@sunken.net
To: me@ex-premie.org me@ex-premie.org
Date: Sunday, June 06, 1999 4:02 AM
Subject: reply to Barney

Hey Barn,

At least you did not eidt my words, gotta give you that. I've done nothing that you or other exers haven't done in extremis yourselves.

Gezz, you even have a link to Maharaji's 'clubhouse' right on the front page of your 'clubhouse, against his wishes, just for starters. Why are you constantly messing with his clubhouse? And for what? Only to boost your own game. And maybe you sincerely think you are doing good in the world for it, and maybe I think the same of my actions. The truth is independent of our own personal opinions. I'd say we are both right some and both wrong some.

I'm not doing any of this in M's direct defense. I have been freely and independently communicating with those of you who wish to for the sake of human communication and contact with others who have had a similar experience (M/K) as I have, but came out with different results.

Natural curiosity. Then, with all the strong personality types around (myself included), things got wierd. The only difference is that you shelter and defend your own for doing the same damn shit that I have done and been banished for. This is fundamentally wrong in most any organization's book. Why don't you post this e-mail too and see what kind of feedback you get from your own buds. NOTHING I have done (multiple post, 'lie-fib' a little, curse and swear and namecall for flavor - for poetic license, not as a habit - etc) is foreign to your own buddies' methods. Hey, whatever.

I'm not going to lose any sleep over this either way, believe me.

<some garbage snipped>

You are trying to parent your flock. I don't think you will get a consensus that ex-premies want to be parented by their webmaster. Check it out.

For the record, I think that although some of the issues addressed here may well be true and appear terribly unjust, Maharaji is still a Master who reveals the Knowledge of all Knowledges, and has brought it to more people around the world than ever before. I still think you were waiting for the Disney version, or Jeffery Hunter in technicolor.

Sorry, this is real life on earth.

If I ran into you, Jim, gerry (not a bitter enemy, by the way) or anyone else on the street and discovered our identities, I'd probably want to sit down and have a little visit and get to know you better face toface. It's always different face to face than cyberspace, said the poet to the webmaster. And more would get accomplished in that way, I bet.

So you do what you gotta do, Barney. It's all the same to me. So far, you are obviously new and inexperienced at wielding power. I'm used to helping folks like you through stuff like this, no hard feelings or offense taken. And there will not be a steady stream of e-mail to you that I expect to have posted in order to circumvent the block. I am just responding to your latest thread. Let's see you put this one up too, then check out the feedback.

-----Original Message-----
From: shp shp@out_yonder.com
To: me@ex-premie.org
Date: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 7:08 AM
Subject: The obvious

Barney and Anth,

I just wanted a witnesses, Anth.

Barney got real authoritative in all caps with gerry for asking to see Sandra's tits.

Then just a few posts further down, Jim says 'fuck you' to her and I don't hear a peep out of the WebMaster admonishing Hellhound. (Maybe he just needs a scratch behind the ears and a bone.) How obvious do you want it? this is a 'Kangaroo Forum', run from behind the curtains by someone who profits from and is an officer of the 'real' court.

I don't expect justice or feedback, Barn. I'm just rubbing your consensual hypocrisy in your face, WebMaster Barney. Your webmastery reminds me of the police officer who held down Abner Louima while another officer shoved a strick up his ass and hurt him real bad internally (NYC). He got punished too, bigtime. You are an accessory. (Editors Note: My emphasis added!)

How does it feel being a two-dimensional cardboard facade for Jim to commit cyber assault and battery?

Watch out for strong winds, because unless you anchor yourself better in the truth, you will blow over reall easy.

5 Brighter than 1000 suns as seen through night vision goggles
4 As bright as the lights on Maharaji's jet
3 As bright as a 60 watt light bulb
2 As bright as a pile of burning ghi on a swinging arti tray
1 As bright as the inner light as seen by the third eye
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