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Editor's Note: I liked michael's description of attending a video event and there is a description of attending a Maharaji Video event by a supposedly neutral third party that I found at the Encyclopedia of Nonduality in their Satsang listings where there are question and answer dialogues of satsang of no particular brand.

Here's the link to Encyclopedia of Nonduality - Satsang with Everyone pages and a link to my excerpt of that dialogue in particular.

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Thurs, Jan 20, 2000 at 19:52:46 (GMT)

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michael

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none so blind
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To all you current premies and knowledge seekers. Why do you persist in following maharaji? Following and worshiping and loving him or any other guru just because he says he has shown you the most ancient of secrets is just too absurd. It might make sense if he were honest and open about who he is and what he wants.

Who is he (who do I think he is)? He is an emotionaly stunted, spoiled, self serving, power tripper who wants to be the center of attention. He is also an aider and abetter of criminal activities, if the posts and stories of child abuse and assault are true. I believe those stories are true. I was a premie in the seventies. I remember how we were told that it was all just a test of our devotion. Bull! It was a coverup and mind control.

Roger eDrek lets loose with a real blast in the thread on British journalism. Good job, Roger. I hope the Brits go after m. He uses people in the most cruel way just to perpetuate his own lifestyle and power trip.

In my thread 'it ain't the same' I describe going to a 'video event' to see if any of my old friends were there. After watching m spout off about how the world is bad and the mind is bad but he is the teacher so only knowledge is good I just had to laugh out loud at the absurdity of it all. His trip that is.

What is not absurd, what is wrong and cruel is the way he takes advantage of the broken hearted people who are sincerely searching for an answer. The people that I did see Tuesday didn't look anything like the people I first saw in '72. Back then the premies at least looked at peace, happy and dare I say it blissful? The people I saw Tuesday appeared to be in pain and confusion and a bit fearful. The premies that spoke on the video appeared spaced out and self delusional.

Based on what I see today, if I were looking for The Answer, you couldn't pay me to take knowledge. Hell, I'd rather follow Jimmy Swaggert. He may be a screwed up jesus dork but, at least he has passion! At least Swaggert had sense enough to 'fess up about porking a prostitute. Maharaji hasn't the courage to come clean about anything. Maybe there are some things would put him in a cell? Maybe he needs the love of Bubba.

Just how do you go from declaring yourself 'Lord of the Universe' to being just a teacher? Hm? Prempal? Got a truthful answer?

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Thurs, Jan 20, 2000 at 23:17:18 (GMT)

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michael

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***Best*** me? shucks
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From the link to satsang sluts: 'For instance, I just attended another Maharaji video tonight, with about ten people attending. There was nothing wrong with what Maharaji said or the way
he said it, and everyone was very silent and attentive. '

Since maharaji has dropped the 'Guru is Greater Than God' line he may be sounding more like the other gurus and so-called sants (saints). I still do not buy the idea that you give your life to the guru. I prefer this: 'When the student is ready, the teacher disapears.'

Again from the link: 'But I still sense something amiss about this particular group, but I can't put it into words yet.'

The group refered to here is of course premies. The best descriptive word that comes to mind is furtive. Today's premies are acting so strange! But that's to be expected, I suppose. After all if you have been taking it up the karmic backside for 10-20 years or more, it must hurt to face the truth.

The truth is that you have been had. It is not your fault, dear premies. Maharaji used the oldest trick in the book - give em what they want! You want peace - he promises that. You want to know the secrets of your existance - he promises that. You want to see god - he promises that (at least he did back then). If you don't feel peaceful - its your fault. If you don't understand knowledge - it's your fault. If you can't see god - don't complain to maharaji!

We used to have DLM parades here in Portland. We marched up and down the street proclaiming that Satguru Maharaj Ji was GOD! We sang it and proclaimed it loud, long and clear. I remember marching in London, England singing and proclaiming the same things! Now, you poor premies have to sort of 'sneak it in'? Hide the fact that it ever happened? Whatever. But can you directly claim that maharaji is god? No? Why not? HE DID! Why can't you? Because he isn't god's gift to humanity. That's it QED.

No wonder people '...sense something amiss about this particular group...'

5 Brighter than 1000 suns as seen through night vision goggles
4 As bright as the lights on Maharaji's jet
3 As bright as a 60 watt light bulb
2 As bright as a pile of burning ghi on a swinging arti tray
1 As bright as the inner light as seen by the third eye
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